I'm still crackin that whip and I do believe I'm wearing them down! It's unbelievably tiring, having to have eyes and ears everywhere to keep suchclosetabs on them. BUT, I do think they are bending to my will. They are doing so unwillingly, but they are doing it! The mere mention of a level drop has them adjusting their attitudes. I'm finding them more and more PLAYING together (they're not on level to do that!) I find them joining forces against ME! Isn't that how it should be? I always thought brothers should be in cahoots at all times. Now they are! They are turning on each other far less frequently. I mean, old habits are hard to break so they still do it....but they're getting better every day! YEAH!